June is Pride Month. It’s a celebration of all things LGBT+. It is not unsurprising that there is a lot of backlash to Pride, from conservative, religious sources. Businesses such as Target have faced boycotts over their display of LGBT products, and Target went as far as to cave into bullying, by removing and relocating said products, over fears of aggressive customers. Much of what the conservative, religious right claims (such as pushing LGBT ‘ideals’ upon children) is baseless, and much of it is also hypocritical.
Some argue the mere existence of LGBT merchandise is a means of ‘converting’ children. If that is truly the case, and those making that argument wish it to stop, then those making that argument who are of a religious mindset should refrain from doing anything to promote their faith to children. After all, if children allegedly do not have the presence of mind to decide where their orientation lies, they don’t have the presence of mind to determine if organised religion is right for them.
In terms of the dangers to children, we have a lot of hysteria about drag queens and transgender individuals, yet all too often, the biggest dangers to children can be found among men (and occasionally women) of the cloth. For all the efforts to demonise the LGBT community, it seems thoroughly hypocritical to me. The practitioners of organised religion should focus on cleaning their own houses. After all, let he who is without sin…
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why is it necessary to ‘celebrate’ who another person has sex with? and for a whole month? sounds a bit needy to me.. perhaps insecure.. sounds like pure Propaganda, Recruiting and Grooming. if it is in fact ‘normal’… why the need to repeatedly and ceaselessly push it? makes zero sense to me. the only Flag i take Pride in or display in June is the American Flag.. Flag Day is the 14th. yup.. that one only gets One Day. Fathers only get One Day for Fathers Day. a whole month to ‘celebrate’ and Propagate the idea that ‘gay’ doesn’t mean Happy anymore, but that people have sex with the same biological gender (i see that’s an issue now too.. ‘what is a woman?”). A whole month is absurd to ‘celebrate’ who someone else has sex with. yes, it’s Propaganda.
For as long as there remains prejudice against the LGBT community (and across the world, there is a great deal of it), I can see the relevance of Pride, just as I can see the importance of Black History Month, and anything that highlights the bigotry and division that continues to blight our world. If the LGBT community is guilty of grooming and recruiting, then surely organised religion is guilty of same (and one has a much greater problem of, among other things, child molestation than the other).
they must teach “yeah, but…” in rhetoric class these days. you’re really good at it. 🙂
Rhetoric, thy name is… um… Rhe.
So it is about making sure people agree and “accept” what they may for whatever never accept. It’s not a “celebration” at all, but a month long marketing/propaganda effort. Got it. Problem with that is you can’t and won’t change everyone’s mind and shouldn’t expect to. If one is fully secure in who they are, it won’t matter anyway. Again, my thinking is that the effort is based in neediness and insecurity. Calling people “bigots” for disagreeing with you or holding a different opinion does nothing but again… show your own “bigotry” against them for daring to disagree. At this point, “pride month” and the major push in media, Hollywood and government is just propaganda and recruiting. Trying to force people to accept what they don’t agree with is pointless and maybe even dangerous if the government is used to punish dissenters for simply exercising their own freedom to disagree. Cheers
Barabbas, consider that all around the world, there are numerous places where the LGBT community is persecuted (be it denial of work, a home, freedom, or worse) for existing. At the forefront of efforts to oppress the LGBT community is organised religion. Organised religion has historically been one of the most efficient and effective forces for propaganda. The impact of organised religion within politics is to see the banning of books that might dare present an alternative point of view (just look at Florida). All year round, the proponents of organised religion push to convert, to preach, and to indoctrinate. Meanwhile, the LGBT community dares to exist, and gets told they are perverts, deviants, paedophiles etc. You’ll forgive me if I don’t buy the rhetoric of organised religion on this one.
There you go with the “yeah, but..” again. None of the comments i have made so far have referenced “organized religion”. Needy and insecure.
In case you have forgotten Barabbas, I referenced organised religion in my post, and I consider it absolutely relevant when discussing the LGBT community and Pride Month. You spoke out against indoctrination and propaganda, yet you adhere to a belief system that is built upon both. What’s more, Christianity has been carrying out those very forms of behaviour for thousands of years. Across the USA, there are non-stop efforts, every single day, to ensure Christian values and beliefs rule the social and political system. Those efforts are accelerating. Yet you are concerned about Pride…
You use terms like ‘grooming’. That term carries unpleasant undertones, and I believe you are smart enough to know that. Yet among the deriding of the LGBT community as being dangerous to kids, where does the true issue of grooming lie? Does it lie within the LGBT community? Or elsewhere? Is the LGBT community truly converting people to its cause? I have heard all about the ‘gay agenda’, yet I have never seen it demonstrated.
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You originally quizzed as to why Pride celebrates ‘who another person has sex with’. I think you’ll find it’s less about the sex, and more about the freedom to exist in same-sex relationships with being stigmatised and treated as second-class citizens. No one is going to knock on your door and try to convert you to becoming gay or bisexual. No one is going to force you to have sex with another man, or make you watch two men having sex.
As I said in my post, if you are against alleged propaganda and indoctrination from the LGBT community, you should be against it from organised religion as well.
More “yeah, but…”. You really are quite good at redirection.
If you say so. It seems to me you’re proving quite good at not reading or addressing the original post, nor the points raised in relation to it, nor the points raised in relation to your claims of grooming, indoctrination etc.
Lol. Thats not redirection, brother. It’s commenting on one portion of your post while ignoring the other… because it was a “yeah, but…”. See what I mean? Even if you don’t, I’m done with this convo. Have a great day
So… you admit to wholesale ignoring a relevant part to my post, to achieve… ? Seems to me you didn’t wish to take everything in context.
I am of course Free to comment on or ignore anything i wish to. Same as you. Again, have a great day.
I don’t seem to recall saying you couldn’t comment, I am just confused as to why you ignored a significant element of my post.
Gee… how needy are you? Let it go. Have a great day
*Shrug* You said you were done yesterday, then came back, being passive-aggressive. Maybe take your own advice?
Oh.. so you weren’t looking for a response? Ah, I get it now. Lol.
Need I remind you, you told me you were done? You’ve come back to… what? Offer snark, or constructive conversation that addresses the substance of my post?
Why do you care who has sex with whom, providing the sex is consensual and not with minors?