Heinous Reasoning (Content Warning, rape, child abuse)

In previous posts, I’d taken ‘David’ Thiessen to task for his horrendous takes on child-rape and abortion. Today, I do so again, via both his latest post on the subject, and via a Christian Post article that ‘David’ refers to.

People may not have liked our position on the 10-year-old girl being raped, but there are others who have said similar things. This article- Abortion after a sexual assault creates 2 assaults

Says the same thing as we have said. We will quote liberally from it. It was written by Samuel Sey:

The story has become international news, especially after Joe Biden’s comments recently. But the Democrats’ and the media’s focus of attention and outrage over this incident isn’t that a man raped a little girl — it’s that when the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, it triggered an anti-abortion law in Ohio that prevented the 10-year-old girl from having an abortion…

According to their reactions, abortion activists and the Democrats are more disturbed by Ohio’s pro-life law than the little girl’s rapist. In fact, it’s not necessarily the 10-year-old girl’s rape that received outrage from abortion activists — it’s that she couldn’t have an abortion in Ohio….

Abortion activists have always exploited victims of sexual assault for their agenda. They’ve always taken advantage of horrific stories of sexual abuse to manipulate people into accepting abortion.

But people who kill children shouldn’t be expected to help children. The people who led the little child to an abortion centre in Indiana didn’t help a child — they killed a child. There are two young children who were assaulted. There are two assault victims in this story, not one…

We should grieve for the 10-year-old girl, but we should also grieve for another child in this story. This story involves two tragedies. The rapist killed the little girl’s innocence, and the abortion center killed her little baby…

What a load of complete bull. The implication that pro-choice supporters do not care about the act of violence that leads to pregnancy is of course, dishonest. I know of no one who does not want to see the rapist see justice for his crimes. However, this is also an example of a Red Herring fallacy at work. The discussion of what happens to the victim of this crime, and of how forced-birthers expect children to give birth, despite the considerable risks to life and well-being.

To quote from here (the chances are ‘David’ will ignore this, as he has in the past):

Early childbirth is especially dangerous for adolescents and their infants. Compared to women between the ages of 20-35, pregnant women under 20 are at a greater risk for death and disease including bleeding during pregnancy, toxemia, hemorrhage, prolonged and difficult labor, severe anemia, and disability. Life-long social and economic disadvantages may be a consequence of teenage birth. Educational and career opportunities may be limited, as may be opportunities for marriage. Teen mothers tend to have larger completed family sizes, shorter birth intervals resulting in both poorer health status for the family, and a more severe level of poverty. The children also suffer; teens mothers have a higher incidence of low birth weight infants which is associated with birth injuries, serious childhood illness, and mental and physical disabilities.


If you need a further understanding of the dangers of child-pregnancies, see here:

Nor are 10-, 11- and 12-year-olds remotely prepared to care for a baby, Wall said. But the risks are physical, as well.

“The placenta preferentially will take nutrition from the mother, who really is a child,” said Sherry Thomas, an ob/gyn at Mission Community Hospital in Panorama City, Calif. That means that the developing fetus will leach calcium and other nutrients from a child who should still be growing herself. Likewise, pregnancy puts a major strain on the cardiovascular system, according to Wall. Pregnant women have about 50 percent more blood circulating through their bodies compared with non-pregnant women. [8 Odd Bodily Changes During Pregnancy]

The greatest danger, however, is to the pelvic floor. Girls may start ovulating and menstruating as early as age 9, though the average is around 12 to 13. (Some studies suggest that the average age of first menstruation is dropping, but the data is not conclusive.) Just because a girl can get pregnant, though, doesn’t mean she can safely deliver a baby. The pelvis does not fully widen until the late teens, meaning that young girls may not be able to push the baby through the birth canal.

The results are horrific, said Wall and Thomas, who have both worked in Africa treating women in the aftermath of such labors. Girls may labor for days; many die. Their babies often don’t survive labor either.

The women and girls who do survive often develop fistulas, which are holes between the vaginal wall and the rectum or bladder. When the baby’s head pushes down and gets stuck, it can cut portions of the mother’s soft tissue between its skull and her pelvic bones. As a result, the tissue dies, and a hole forms. Feces and urine then leak through the hole and out of the vagina. Women with fistulas are often divorced and shunned. And young girls are at higher risk.


Perhaps the most damming element of all this, is that someone who abandoned their parental responsibilities (and I have more and more reason to believe this to be true) is lecturing on forcing others to become parents, against their will. Such a person is not a moral authority on subjects concerning child welfare, nor parenting.

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