I’m getting free publicity! Well, sort of. It’s started via an article and a video that apparently marks me as a troll, because I can see someone getting taken advantage of, played like a fiddle, and financially ruined – and I don’t like to see that happen.
From hasty generalisations to personally referencing me as a troll for not wanting Abdins to ruin himself at the behest of others, this article is painfully flawed. That said, death threats should never happen. https://t.co/j6XZDaXQvI— Ben Berwick (@darth_timon) October 22, 2019
Not even the polite gesture of an @? https://t.co/0i3nzguyUj— Ben Berwick (@darth_timon) October 22, 2019
I’ve already briefly touched upon this, but seeing as Kirkman has set up (yes, set up) a blog to go after me, and gone as far as to resurrect some discussions that are years old, I felt it would be prudent to offer the other side of the tale. Since Kirkman has told me not reply, I am therefore going to anyway, as don’t respond to such demands. Kirkman’s words are in red, where he quotes me, the text will be blue.
Yesterday, Memeology 101 whom I may not necessarily agree with on lots of things posted this excellent little expose video on how badly Drekkies are treating Anas Abdin just for protecting his creation form being ripped off by a show they love:
But there’s one pathetic Drekkie named Ben Berwick who goes by the online persona of “Meerkat Musings” on social media and he has his own website too. I stumbled across this Meerkat’s tweet whic is featured in the above video on one of Ans Abdin’s tweets so I decided to reply and this caused an argument which he set himself up for. He claims he is trying to help Anas avoid legal trouble and that we True Trek fans are somehow “only using him”. I’ll be kicking off this blog with a response to a couple of Meerkat Drekkie’s posts starting with Lies, Slander and the Despicable with his words in “italics” and my words in regular font:
Emphasis mine. Kirkman sought out an argument with an ill-tempered tweet, made entirely of his own volition. He’s started this spat, he’s perpetuated it, and he’s the one making unreasonable demands, all because he hates a TV show. It’s astonishing to me that anyone can hate a TV or movie to such a degree that they need to insult people for liking it. Without wanting to come across as rude, this characterises my interactions with Kirkman, and suggests a break with reality. I am genuinely concerned for someone who can harbour so much rage over a TV show.
The thing is, Abdins is being set up for a fall. His case has already failed once, and the appeal will almost certainly fail as well.
“I provide the above link because I’m mentioned in it, as I’m apparently a ‘pro-CBS troll’ for urging Abdins to not listen to the cowards and liars. Liars like Doomcock, for example, who, among others, has pushed Abdins into a lawsuit that could ruin him financially, despite having already lost one such suit.”
Regardless of whether or not any of Anas Abdin’s allies are cowards and liars or not is irrelevant, he’s not gonna listen to you so I’d knock this off if I were you. Since you’re an aspiring writer, you should ask yourself how you’d feel if a big corporation ripped you off and the court ruled against you and let your plagiarizers get away with it? This is were you must be very careful what you wish for in case you might get it.
Actually, the issue of people being cowards and liars is very much relevant. They are urging someone to take a lot of risk, whilst not taking any themselves, and they’re doing so on a false premise. Abdin has already lost one case; there is no case to answer in terms of plagiarism. It hasn’t taken place, and Abdin will take all the flak for the failure of the appeal, not those who are egging him on to make one. They want him to take this on owing to dishonesty and cowardice.
“There is no case to answer. CBS have been found not guilty as it were, yet the anti-DSC crowd have been almost hysterical in their bid to get Abdins to carry out further legal action, despite Abdins being the one who face all the risks and suffer all the consequences when such a case fails. It’s a mark of how Doomcock et al care only about destroying a show they don’t like, and if someone gets ruined in the process, that’s not their problem.”
Just because the Judge ruled in favor of the plagiarists doesn’t necessarily mean that they’re not guilty. For starters, CBS was rude to Anas when he tried to contact them which is what drove the case to court in the first place, suggesting threat they had something to hide. If they were really innocent, they would’ve replied to Anas when he first tired to contact them to clarify things, but that wasn’t the case. True that there are manchildrin like Doomcock in my anti-STD ranks, but that doesn’t change the fact that Anas is still upset anyway about being ripped off. If Anas get legally hurt as you threatening will happen to him if he doesn’t back down on his appeal, we will still feel for him and be angry at the judge for letting the plagiarist bullies go unpunished.
The courts would have looked at all the evidence and judged it accordingly. Whether or not CBS were apparently rude to Abdin is rather beside the point – it suggests absolutely nothing and is a desperate reach. Also, a bit more emphasis mine – feeling sorry for Anas after he’s been financially ruined by an ill-fated and ill-advised appeal won’t help him in any way shape or form. That’s a bit like urging someone to tackle a dangerous and difficult stunt, them seriously hurting themselves, and you shrugging your shoulders and saying ‘sorry’.
“More troubling are the death threat claims. I am not about to suggest Abdins is lying about those. They serve as a reminder that both sides of this equation can be despicable. There is nothing to be gained from such behaviour, and it must stop. If we are to consider ourselves Trekkies, we need to pause for a moment and remember the ideals of the show. I am reminded of Batleth Babe’s article – and why it’s perhaps better to disengage from the haters.”
Naturally I condemn threats.
The death threats only makes our point about STD’s guilt in this case even stronger since fans of an innocent show wouldn’t act like that towards their show’s accuser(s). Donald Trump whom we both vehemently oppose threatened his accusers whom he touched and raped thus showing his guilt. While I agree that such behavior must stop on both sides but if we are to consider ourselves Trekkies, we must 1) admit that STD is not Star Trek, 2) not defend plagiarists like by denying their crimes, and 3) stop it with the violent threats. On Batleth Babe’s article you’ve mentioned, this plagiarism case revokes any validity she may have had since plagiarism and bad court rulings that let plagiarists get away with it shouldn’t go unpunished.
What a load of absolute rubbish. A TV show cannot be guilty of anything, so that’s an asinine statement. It certainly doesn’t offer anything regarding whether or not CBS committed plagiarism. All they show is that a small number of idiot fanatics don’t know how to behave and what lines to draw. It’s no different to the racists and bigots who object to DSC along such lines – I don’t regard them as typical of the anti-DSC crowd, and their behaviour doesn’t indicate the ‘guilt or innocence’ of a TV show.
As for only considering ourselves Trekkies if we reject DSC, that’s absurd. It’s that arrogant, elitist, quasi-religious fanaticism rearing its ugly head again. It’s the notion that some opinions carry more weight than others, even more weight it seems, than legal and copyright fact. The owners (CBS) decide what is and is not canon, and that is the fact of the matter. If any individual fan chooses not to consider Discovery as canon, that’s up to them, but it has no bearing on the legal reality. Equally, even if Discovery were a reboot, it would still be Star Trek, in the same way that the Kelvin timeline films are Star Trek. Nothing changes from a legal and copyright perspective, and no one opinion outweighs another – such an attitude, such an arrogant mindset, hardly represents the ethos of Star Trek.
That’s all from that Meerkat’s idiotic post of yesterday now I will tackle his trash post of today about me, A Blast from the Past in which he shows his inital tweet to Anas and my original reply to it so here’s what he had to say:
“Well this is a blast from the past. A few years ago, I ended up in a tit-for-tat discussion with someone who was virulently opposed to a website I happen to be a member of. He enjoyed large-scale poisoning of the well against its members, so I wrote up some stuff that challenged his claims. I am pretty certain this is the same guy. Kirkman1701 was once known as OrionSagan, and I happen to know his real name, though I won’t advertise that on here. It’s greatly ironic that he complains of poisoning the well, even though this has been a ‘go-to’ tactic of his in the past. You can follow the conversation on Twitter if you want, it’s lengthy though!”
I wasn’t poisoning the well against StarDestroyer.Net members since Mike Wong’s rapsheet was massive, especially in 1999 and the early 2000s when DarkStar recorded it on his how archived website like Wong’s failed attempt at a legal threat in 2003. You on the other hand poisoned the well against the anti-STD Trekkies who were supporting Anas Abdin in his legal fight an appeal by claiming that we’re somehow “don’t really care about the guy and only use him”. Even if the unfavorable information you provide about Anas’ allies is true which some of it about some of them are is, that doesn’t detract form the fact that Klutzman ripped Anas off. In 2014, my friend had you and I make a truce yet you later borke that truce as evident in comments you posted to me on this Titan A.E. Motivational Poster later that year .
Oh Kirkman, you were most definitely poisoning the well, since your beef was largely with Mike, and you fell hook line and sinker for the dishonest rhetoric of others who criticised him. You used that to tar the membership with the same brush, and now you complain because it’s obvious that anti-DSC trolls are happy to see someone destroy themselves, because they hate a TV show almost as much as you do. As for our truce, I commented on a poster that had been shared by a third party, I did not post comments or remarks elsewhere about you. You on the other hand, sought out an argument on Twitter, and whilst I don’t care if my real name is plastered all over your site (I have nothing to hide), I note the casual disregard for my safety in many respects, whilst I have not disclosed your actual identity. Furthermore, none of that is actually relevant to the discussion at hand, so one can only wonder at why you’re employing this particular red herring argument.
And one more thing Meerkat Drekkie: if I were you, I wouldn’t have even tried to talk to Anas in the first place regardless of the reasons for doing so since you set yourself up and opened a can of worms onto yourself.
To Be Continued…
I see, so I shouldn’t advise someone to ignore the trolls who don’t give a damn about him? Not gonna happen, if I see cowards in action, I’ll call them out. As for Part 2, I’ll address that some other time, but yes, Kirkman has written two posts about me. How quaint.